(repeats in head, serenity now, serenity now...) My "idea" was to use proper syntax, that's all, you shouldn't need to be instructed to do that. Your code snip, did not have a close quote, that was the only change I was recommending. The link, you point to is STILL the install guide, which if you had copy/pasted properly would have had the close quote. There is SOME onus on the server host to understand how these things work... I know very little about hosting, or running a server, or SQL in general, I'm not a programmer, and have no formal training or experience in ANY of those fields... and I immediately noticed your lack of a close quote. All the information is in fact there. You have implied many times that our package or instructions are somehow lacking, but all they lacked was the ability to manually DO the work for you. IF I put out another package, it will likely include instructions either from the ground up, or based on 1st installing a .21 server according to Seven's thread, and then patching to the new build. I may do a ground up tutorial, but again, I need to refocus on real life not learning how to do things so I can instruct others, the fact that I can learn them to teach them should sort of indicate it's not that hard.