Survival Servers have always been a shady company I first dealt with them more than a year ago now. More on that later though. In the past SS have shown they obviously don't care about ethics or morals and only about making money. Back in May the Origins files were leaked and shortly after SS started sending out mails offering hosting on those leaked files - http://pbrd.co/17JvTSD
In the end the Origins guys DDOS'd SS in order to stop them making money from trying to host their mod. Presumably because they found talking to them not to be effective but who knows with Origins.http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1ecfve/criminal_actions_of_dayz_origins_developers/
Now Origins is a mod designed to make money and I won't defend their actions but SS were certainly wrong to be trying to make money hosting with their files. Whats far more alarming is what they have recently started doing...
Myself and many others over at opendayz.net write small server modifications which we share with the community. I'm sure many of you will have come across these countless times in the past on various servers. Scripts that let you do things like eat people, self blood bag, remove vehicle parts etc. We share our work to help others learn before I wrote my own mods I learned from the work others had shared on opendayz. We do not however share it so people can use it for profit.
SS have started selling the installation of these simple scripts onto servers -http://www.survivalservers.com/cart.php?gid=24
Now for one thing the installation of all these mods is trivial, and detailed fully in their original threads. Secondly my modifications and many other peoples state that they cannot be taken and used for profit -
http://opendayz.net/threads/random-clothing-parcels.12217/
Yet SS have them listed on their "modding service" page. This is completely unauthorized. It is disgusting that SS are trying to make money from "installation" of something so trivial. In my experience with the company I doubt they will even do a decent job of it either.
I actually hosted a server with SS over a year ago now. The server itself was terrible, it was only even accessible for 20 days out of the 31 I paid for I wrote some details last year on the dayz mod forums about that. I dealt with a few hosts before switching to dedicated hosting and doing the job myself. SS were certainly the worst company I dealt with in that time.
SS also stole the work of Hangender and Infistar, who made an excellent server side antihack script, which SS also sell (without permission). It is not their work and AFAIK they have no permission from the authors to be selling it.
I wanted to make this thread not only to highlight the extremely underhand and immoral tactics they are employing to try to make money. But also to warn anyone thinking of hosting a server with their company to avoid them at all costs. There are lots of alternative hosts to SS for DayZ and all of them offer a better service.
SS use the crappy TCAdmin package for managing their servers. This is a generic package (surprise surprise not coded by them) which doesn't work properly or allow you to do many simple dayz server management tasks. Their hosting is lacking in many areas (including performance) compared to the other hosts. DayZ.st for example have a wealth of in house coded web-based tools to make server management easier. If you are considering hosting a dayz server and you aren't confident enough to be doing it on a dedicated box DO NOT chose to host with SS. If you have had similar bad experiences with SS please share them here.
In the end the Origins guys DDOS'd SS in order to stop them making money from trying to host their mod. Presumably because they found talking to them not to be effective but who knows with Origins.http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1ecfve/criminal_actions_of_dayz_origins_developers/
Now Origins is a mod designed to make money and I won't defend their actions but SS were certainly wrong to be trying to make money hosting with their files. Whats far more alarming is what they have recently started doing...
Myself and many others over at opendayz.net write small server modifications which we share with the community. I'm sure many of you will have come across these countless times in the past on various servers. Scripts that let you do things like eat people, self blood bag, remove vehicle parts etc. We share our work to help others learn before I wrote my own mods I learned from the work others had shared on opendayz. We do not however share it so people can use it for profit.
SS have started selling the installation of these simple scripts onto servers -http://www.survivalservers.com/cart.php?gid=24
Now for one thing the installation of all these mods is trivial, and detailed fully in their original threads. Secondly my modifications and many other peoples state that they cannot be taken and used for profit -
http://opendayz.net/threads/random-clothing-parcels.12217/
Yet SS have them listed on their "modding service" page. This is completely unauthorized. It is disgusting that SS are trying to make money from "installation" of something so trivial. In my experience with the company I doubt they will even do a decent job of it either.
I actually hosted a server with SS over a year ago now. The server itself was terrible, it was only even accessible for 20 days out of the 31 I paid for I wrote some details last year on the dayz mod forums about that. I dealt with a few hosts before switching to dedicated hosting and doing the job myself. SS were certainly the worst company I dealt with in that time.
SS also stole the work of Hangender and Infistar, who made an excellent server side antihack script, which SS also sell (without permission). It is not their work and AFAIK they have no permission from the authors to be selling it.
I wanted to make this thread not only to highlight the extremely underhand and immoral tactics they are employing to try to make money. But also to warn anyone thinking of hosting a server with their company to avoid them at all costs. There are lots of alternative hosts to SS for DayZ and all of them offer a better service.
SS use the crappy TCAdmin package for managing their servers. This is a generic package (surprise surprise not coded by them) which doesn't work properly or allow you to do many simple dayz server management tasks. Their hosting is lacking in many areas (including performance) compared to the other hosts. DayZ.st for example have a wealth of in house coded web-based tools to make server management easier. If you are considering hosting a dayz server and you aren't confident enough to be doing it on a dedicated box DO NOT chose to host with SS. If you have had similar bad experiences with SS please share them here.